Toyota's biggest mistake

"BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather" (bugeyedacura) 11/12/2014 at 13:23 • Filed to: None

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Was discontinuing the production and development of the 2ZZ. This engine was fantastic, with its VTEC mimicking high-cam and free-revving nature. If they kept it around and kept improving it, they would be nowhere near as far in the hole as they are now. After all, they kept the pedestrian version around!

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 11/12/2014 at 13:29

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Yes.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 11/12/2014 at 13:31

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Sometimes I forget how good the last generation of Celica can look when lowered and put on some nice wheels.

itschrome > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 11/12/2014 at 13:35

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I couldn't agree more! the 2zz was one of the greatest 4 cylinder engine I have ever had the privilege of driving! The Last Gen Celica GTS was an incredible machine! that engine and that transmission, beautiful! But that engine! My god! It loved to REV and just sang in those high rpm's! that noise over 6800rpm was... heavenly! and it just pulled! I wish I could try one out in the Lotus, esp with the supercharger. I may need new pants just thinking about it. I could only imagine where it would be these days.

My buddy who owned the GTS and I often pondered the pure sex that would be a 2zz derived v8. two of them fused at the cam. a sweet lovely rev happy 33.6LT v8. oh god. while we knew that would be a pipe dream, we had hoped for another evolution of the 2zz, but no they limped on in detuned common use.. woe is the fate of the 2zz

daender > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 11/12/2014 at 13:36

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I heard it was a barrel of laughs in the Corolla as well, turned a boring car into a fun hoonmobile. Also the series 2 Lotus Elise makes great use of the 2ZZ in both n/a and s/c form!

itschrome > itschrome 11/12/2014 at 13:36

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Oh man, imagine a new gen in the fr-s.... mmm

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 11/12/2014 at 13:37

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The 2zz is so epic. Put one in an MR2 Spyder and you have yourself a budget Lotus.

MonkeePuzzle > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 11/12/2014 at 13:43

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I was sitting at a mcdonalds across teh road from a dealer when I first saw one, LOVE the look, and that wingless one above is astounding! shame they lose the RWD or AWD options

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > itschrome 11/12/2014 at 14:36

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That was one of my original thoughts

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > itschrome 11/12/2014 at 14:37

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Even better, imagine a 270hp I6 derived from the 2ZZ jammed longitudinally into the FR-S...

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > daender 11/12/2014 at 14:39

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The first gen XRS, the only Corolla I've truly lusted over...

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > MonkeePuzzle 11/12/2014 at 14:40

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I could go for an AWD version

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 11/12/2014 at 14:40

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And de-winged. It's one of the few sport compacts from the 2000s that actually looks better without.

MonkeePuzzle > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 11/12/2014 at 14:43

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apparently someone has made one, reportedly 700HP AWD

but this is where I last loved the celicas

MIATAAAA > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 11/12/2014 at 14:52

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I, proudly, drive a 2ZZ. And yes... it is just as ridiculous and wonderful as anyone can imagine.

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 11/12/2014 at 17:13

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This is the Toyota I miss.